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Copper
18-11-2003, 01:50 PM
I needed a chocolate fix today so I looked at the Bournville chocolate ingredients - they have gone back to using butterfat :headbang:

I did buy some Tesco own stripey (ie cheap) plain chocolate as that does not include dairy products. I will let you know if it tastes ok when I try it later today.

Copper
18-11-2003, 03:01 PM
Further to my message above I have looked at the Tesco chocolate label again and found this helpful info -

Allergy advice
Contains milk, soya
This product may contain traces of nuts etc

Ingredients
Sugar, Cocoa mass, Cocoa butter, Emulsifier (lecithins), Flavouring

:sad:

I am confused as I can't see a dairy product in the ingredients! Is this just a case of Tesco trying to cover their backs?

Pam
18-11-2003, 04:32 PM
Is there a customer services number for Tesco's on the wrapper. I'd be tempted to ask them to explain. I have had their cheap dark chocolate before and not noticed anything on the ingredients list but I don't think the pack that I had mentioned it containing milk. It was ok for a cheap, quick, chocolate fix at 28p per 100g.

Copper
19-11-2003, 12:24 PM
I have discovered that Bournville chocolate is now made in France where vegetable fat is not used.

I have found this website

http://www.anaphylaxis.org.uk/alerts.html

which lists some food which contain milk including the above mentioned chocolate.

Copper
19-11-2003, 12:56 PM
After further research and a phone call to Tesco I have discovered the 25% rule. If an ingredient is less than 25% of the whole product it does not have to be listed! Tesco have tried to be helpful by adding the allergy advice on my chocolate which says that it contains soya and milk.

I will not be having my chocolate fix and will be returning said chocoltae to the store tomorrow.

Tesco do a dairy free list which they are sending to me today.

Pam
19-11-2003, 04:27 PM
25% is a huge amount, it's like saying that you don't need to list cheese in a cheese and ham sandwich if the bread, ham and dressings add up to more than 75%.

I am stunned - 25%!!!!! - we're hardly talking 'trace' here are we?

Boycott Tesco, they obviously can't be trusted to label their foods properly.

25 per cent!!!! I'm so stunned I can't stop saying it.

I know the official rule is that ingredients don't have to be listed if they make up less than a certain percentage of a product - but 25%?!!!

Lan
19-11-2003, 07:24 PM
Hi all,

I agree that 25% is an awful lot of ingredients not to mention, are these people stupid or what?

Maybe we should all write to Tescos main office and complain, maybe then we'd be able to get an explanation and possibly an apology.

Do you ever feel like you're :headbang: ? I do.

Kind Regards,

Lan. :D :P

Copper
19-11-2003, 10:04 PM
Yes I admit I was stunned by the 25% rule. If I ate some of that chocolate and it contained 24% milk I would suffer.

This rule does apply to everything so Tesco will not be the only people hiding behind it.

This site has lots of useful info about food labels and regulations including the 25% rule.

http://www.foodlaw.rdg.ac.uk/label/index2.htm

Yes I feel that I am :headbang: and would like to :bash: somebody.

Copper
19-11-2003, 10:20 PM
I have just found this site

http://www.food.gov.uk/foodlabelling/resea...ports/61867/flf (http://www.food.gov.uk/foodlabelling/researchandreports/61867/flf)

I have only had a glance at the information BUT things may change soon. Thank goodness for the Food Standards Agency.

Steph
27-11-2003, 12:24 PM
Bad news everyone-lecithin is dairy related, unless it states lecithins(soya) or lecithins (vegetable) Found this out from our health visitor as my baby has chronic infant excema caused by yep yu got it dairy.

aprilgrace
27-11-2003, 01:07 PM
thanks for that steph...I was quite sure lecithin was dairy in some way...did they go in to any more detail?

zachary
20-02-2004, 11:13 AM
: :) I don't know if this is helpfull to you Copper but at my local Tesco's they sell Dairy free chocolate bars called Free From range!

Copper
20-02-2004, 03:41 PM
My Tesco is very large and is useless when it comes to dairy free! Things are so bad I am considering a trip to Sainsbuurys. The local one used to have a decent dairy free aisle but then decided to halve it. I was given the run around and then gave up.

We dairy free folk here in the south get a bad deal from the supermarkets.

matt
22-02-2004, 04:32 AM
i would agree, tesco's not much cop when it comes to dairy free. sainsburys at castlepoint bournemouth good. big aisle of stuff clearly marked and the soft cheeses. it's still a fourty mile round trip though going past several other stores. just easier to go to one and get it all under one roof.

such is life, maybe one day we'll be taken seriously. it doesn't help with intolerances being put with fads and papers suggesting it's all in our minds. bloody wish it was, then i could stop having to spend more and travel more than other people just to get basic items.

rant over. :headbang:

Copper
22-02-2004, 01:57 PM
Thanks for that info Matt. Sainsburys at Alder Hills used to be ok for dairy free then cut loads out. Nobody could tell me what was going on and I just gave up with them.

I will try Castle Point when I think it is quiet so I can actually get out of the car park :)

astra
22-02-2004, 02:24 PM
hmm i'm usually pretty nifty at finding out stuff on the 'net, but i've been unable to find out exactly what is in bournville, shame really as i love the stuff, one square at a time out the fridge just melting in your mouth *drool* but i've been put off until i know the exact ingredients. the cadbury site was down at the time, but i'll keep going back to check, as soon as i find out for sure i will be sure to post my findings here!

i was told that thorntons do do a certain amount of i *think* chocolate for vegans, i can happily munch through tesco american hard gums happy in the knowledge that they are vegan.

i did find a site online that do presentation boxes of chocolates to send as a gift - again vegan, so suitable for people on a dairy free diet :)

http://www.troodyskrumptious.co.uk/

Hannah
22-02-2004, 08:51 PM
Hi everyone,

I work at a Tesco's In the south west, which does have quite a good Free from range of products, and the chocolate is not bad if you want a milk chocolate rush without the milk.

Hannah :)

astra
23-02-2004, 11:36 AM
I have come across a site that states what products of each of the chocolate manufacturers are vegan - ie dairy free the list is 1994/5 and i will endeavour to check that the items listed are in fact vegan as they state :)

Cadbury's (Vegan)

Fry's Orange Cream; Fry's Peppermint Cream.


Thornton's Vegan

170g Plain Mint Crisps Plain Chocolate Gingers

Plain Chocolate Brazils 225g Cherries in Liqueur

Plain walnut Marzipan Plain Rum Truffle

Plain Marzipan Bar 150g Dark Chocolate Egg

170g Acid Lemon Drops (HB) 150g After Dinner Mints (HB)

170g Citric Slices (HB) 170g Mixed Fruit Drops (HB)


Terry's Suchard Vegan

1767 Bitter Bar


Nestle/Rowntree Vegan

Fruit Gums Fox's Glacier Mints

Fox's Glacier Fruits Jelly Tots

Jelly Tots Giant Tube Polo Fruits


now, as i've been vegan for a few months, my first challenge was to find some chocolate!! and i was informed by a large group of fellow vegans that nestle after eights are in fact vegan, and co-op do their own range of dark choc/mint products, all clearly marked vegan :)

Copper
24-02-2004, 01:47 PM
I have been on the Cadbury site today and found the "wizard" which tells you which sweets are dairy free.

http://www.cadbury.co.uk/EN/CTB2003/

Then click on nuti-wizard. Have fun :)

Bournville chocolate is not on the dairy free list for the reason I stated in my post earlier in this thread! I have seen that chocolate limes are dairy free - I must buy some of them :bleh: