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Copper
03-01-2011, 10:01 PM
As some you may be aware I have been the lucky person chosen to have this test done for free.
Now that Xmas and New Year are behind us I have started the test.
Step 1
I opened my little parcel which contained a kit in a box and some paperwork. I had fill in the paperwork with the obvious things, email address, phone number and check that my name and address were correct. I also had to sign that I was not pregnant or had any nasty things wrong with me.
The kit contained an antiseptic wipe, a plaster, a wand (a very small tube), a container for the wand, a marker pen and the dreaded lancet. There was also a leaflet explaining what you had to do in words and pictures.
I washed my hands in warm water and dried them. I had already decided that the best digit to be cut was my left thumb (the picture shows a finger). I wiped the fleshy part of my thumb with the wipe and allowed it to dry. My daughter then took the protective cover off of the lancet and showed me the lancet and said "oh that is quite big so it will hurt". I looked away and she stabbed my thumb as quickly as she could. As the lancet is in a round container my daughter said she pushed as hard and as quickly as she could but had no idea where the lancet was until I said ow. :lol2: We then spent a while allowing the blood to collect up into the wand. My daughter held the tube and I massaged my thumb in order to keep the blood flowing.
I really think this has to be a two person job.
I then applied the plaster.
Job done we put the blood filled tube into the container provided. I wrote my name on the tube with the marker pen. My daughter put the protective cover on the lancet. I put the lancet and blood filled tube into the box and then into the envelope provided. I put the paperwork into the envelope.
The little package will be posted tomorrow. York Tests aim to get the results in the post within 10 working days.
It will be interesting to see what my problem foods are now.
Well done for getting chosen and to your daughter for stabbing you. It will be very interesting to see what the results show.
Helen SCD
05-01-2011, 01:23 PM
Well done, definately sounds like a two person job. I too will interested with the results. Did you have any wheat or glutne before hand?
Copper
06-01-2011, 09:24 AM
During the week I ate a lamb shank which the box claimed had wheat in it. I was fine afterwards.
I have had a couple of off days in the last week and think that was soya. I am only guessing though so I hope the test reveals my problems.
Well done for doing it. I hope the results are helpful for you. *crosses fingers*.
Copper
11-01-2011, 01:12 PM
I received the results today. I have to say they were not what I was expecting!
Anything labelled 0 means no reaction and so I have no problem with those foods. My 0 results include soya bean, tea and salmon which I have excluded from my diet as they make me ill. That said I do eat foods which contain soya lecithin but try and keep that to a minimum.
Positive results ie a reaction was found, are graded 1-4 where 4 is the most reaction seen in the test. These are my problem foods:-
Egg white - 2
Egg Yolk - 2
Chicken - 1
Gluten (Gliadin) - 1
Wheat - 1
Yeast - 1
I also have some foods which have a reaction value of less than 1 and are borderline. These are:-
Corn (Maize)
Cows Milk
Turkey
I discovered that egg made me ill when I was about 18, so a long time ago. I have not eaten an egg since then. I do still use them in baking though. Perhaps I will have to stop doing that now. It is nice to know that I did not imagine the wheat/gluten problem.
Along with my results I have a results guidebook which I have yet to read. I also have a booklet which is a 12 week food diary to keep. The aim is to see if I feel better once I have eliminated my problem foods identified by the tests.
I also have a form to fill in and post which gives me a one years' free membership to Allergy UK.
Finally but the most important thing is a free phone number for me to phone to make an appointment for a one hour free consultation with a BANT registered nutritional therapist. The nutritional therapist phones you so you are not paying for the phone call.
I might have some more thoughts once I have digested my results.
What is the theory behind the test? How does it work or was this explained in the other thread? I remember having a test once in a local health food shop (not blood) and it said I was intolerant to strawberry, I always thought this was strange as I have never had a reaction but I had just eaten a strawberry cake bar before entering the shop. If you haven't eaten anything how can it be detected and if you have just eaten alot of something would it show as a higher reading.
Hopefully the results are correct and there is an end to your problems.
Copper
24-01-2011, 09:15 PM
The only information I can find is this on the York Test Site
http://www.yorktest.com/en/our-tests/product-information/FoodScan113FoodIntoleranceTest.html?ProductID=2
Please note: Raised levels of food-specific IgG antibodies within your blood indicate that a reaction to a particular food or foods has occurred. If you have already taken the decision to eliminate a particular food or foods from your diet they may not show up as a reaction on your results. If you know of foods that trigger your symptoms then do not start eating them just to confirm this through taking the test. We cannot encourage you to eat a food or foods which you already know are a problem to you.
Copper
24-01-2011, 09:21 PM
Well I have eaten Genius bread which contains egg and I have eaten chicken. I have not been 100% so I will have to do something about my diet.
I have a one hour phone consultation with a nutrional therapist on Wednesday afternoon. This consultation is free with my York Test. I am going to write down a list of things I know that I am intolerant to that did not show up in the tests, eg soya. I wonder why that did not come back positive as soya lecithins are in loads of foods. I will also think of some questions.
I will report back late Wednesday.
I hope your consultation goes well Copper.
I have just had a look at the list of the 113 foods and as a quick count I don't eat 25 items on the list already. So if I had the test and from the quote given If you have already taken the decision to eliminate a particular food or foods from your diet they may not show up as a reaction on your results. So there would be the possibility that if I had an intolerance to these foods it wouldn't show up, not because i have decided to illiminate them, just because they are not foods I would normally eat.
I expect to get the most from this test you need to be eating all of the foods regularly to get an accurate diagnosis. I'm not rubbishing the test, just trying to get my head round it (its being from a scientific background that does it).
Copper
25-01-2011, 09:56 PM
I understand your thinking as I am a scientist (not a very good one) and have similar questions.
I have prepared my questions for my consultation which means I have put more thought into my results.
According to the York test I am perfectly ok with tea, coconut and soya. I have not had tea since 1982 when I realised that tea was making me ill. A few years ago I had a very bad reaction to coconut so that is not in my diet either. Soya affects me too but I do eat things which contain soya lecithin.
Today I received an email from Allergy UK. They gave me some links to various fact sheets. I have not read them all yet but I did read the one about intolerances. The interesting information was that the tests are looking for antibodies (IgG) in the blood (not the antibodies which are found in allergies which are IgE). A study has been carried out and some people with IgG antibodies have no intolerance symptoms. Some people think that intolerance develops in foods we eat most but that does not explain my coconut problem as I have never eaten a lot of coconut.
The more I read the more confused I get.
More research is being done on intolerances.
Clarebear
26-01-2011, 10:59 AM
Hi
I took this test a couple of years ago. I was told that it wouldn't show up reactions if you had already excluded a food from your diet. My GP was very skeptical, but I went ahead anyway. At the time I hadn't excluded any food from my diet.
The test showed milk as the only strong reaction. Therefore I gave up milk and milk products. After just a couple of weeks I felt better in general. I no longer have any digestive problems and I haven't had a migraine in two years, having previously suffered with them on a weekly basis since I was 13 (I'm 36 now).
The odd times when I've eaten something that contains milk without knowing, I've been ill. For me the test worked, it might not be so clear cut if you have multiple intolerences, but I thought I'd add my thoughts!
Clarebear
Copper
26-01-2011, 11:50 AM
Thanks for adding to the discussion :)
Milk came up as a problem on my results but I am sure that milk has not been in my diet for at least 6 years.
Its all very interesting and confusing. I suppose the main thing is if the test indicates you have a problem with something then it is a starting point if you hadn't considered that item before.
Copper are you tempted to try tea and coconut again to see if you have a reaction as the test came back that you were ok with these?
Clare that must have been such a relief to find out the cause of your migranes after suffering for so long.
Copper
27-01-2011, 09:12 PM
I have had my first phone consultation with the nutritional therapist.
When they see yeast in the results that is a sign of a leaky gut. The gut is damaged by yeast. You get too much yeast and bad bacteria in the gut and not enough good bacteria if you have been on antibiotics, long term medication or suffered with stress. I was certainly stressed at work a few years ago and that it is when my intolerances started appearing.
This is the plan:-
I have to take Lactobacillus (no dairy involved) for 30 days.
I have to follow a strict diet for 3 months. This is based on my positive results.
I have to eat rye bread which contains no yeast. I must not eat anything which contains yeast (stock cubes usually contain yeast extract). I must not eat any mushrooms.
I must keep my sugar intake to a minimum. I must not eat dried fruit. I can eat fresh fruit but no more than 3 a day. This cuts out cakes, biscuits and chocolate :(
I must cut out chicken.
I must not eat wheat (hence the rye bread).
I must not eat anything which contains egg. We did discuss my symptoms with egg and as I react within a couple of hours this might be an allergy rather than an intolerance. The therapist said it would be interesting to try egg again at a later stage. Hmm scary.
I can have a very small amount of vinegar.
I can eat things which contain corn (maize) but no more than two a week. This is when I discovered corn starch is in rather a lot of things, sigh.
I can eat turkey but no more than twice a week.
I will still be dairy free as I am totally lactose intolerant. The therapist did point out that once my gut has repaired itself I should be ok with Lactolite milk, now that would be good.
I have probably eliminated soya in the form of soya lecithin by sticking to this new diet.
The idea is that hopefully the Lactobacillus will boost the good bacteria in my gut. The yeast is being starved of sugar. My gut will stop being attacked by yeast and will repair itself. In 3 months I will feel so much better and we can talk about adding things to my diet again. If I don't feel better then I might have to take an antimicrobial.
I did ask about calcium and yes I should be concerned about my calcium levels. I should carry on taking one Osteocare tablet a day which gives me half the RDA. The rest should come from my oat milk with added calcium, orange juice with added calcium and leafy green vegetables. The therapist suggested Tahini (I had to ask what that was :lol2: ) which is pulverised sesame seeds as that is rich in calcium. I have tried my seeded rye bread, which doesn't toast, and I am not that keen on it. It tasted better with Tahini on it. You use the Tahini instead of margarine. I have some unseeded rye bread to try tomorrow.
We have been shopping twice and now I have food I can eat. I really hope this works. I have discovered Organix snack sized rice cakes with raspberry and blueberry. Rice cakes are boring and dry but these have a zing to them. I am eating more fruit. I even ate my half a red grapefruit with no sugar and it was nice. I have sugarless coffee and it does not bother me. I can see me eating less sugary things long term as I will be used to it. I will be having porridge for breakfast tomorrow as that will keep me going for longer. I have spent most of today feeling hungry :(
To answer Jill's question I think I will give tea and coconut a miss. I have never really been a fan of tea. I reacted quite quickly to tea and coconut so maybe I am allergic rather than intolerant.
Good luck with it. I think Leaky Gut was one of the things we suggested a while back wasn't it?I know there's a lot of info on the internet about it, that may have some ideas of food, and meals for you that you haven't thought of.
Do you know how many bacteria are in the probiotic, as there is a newish one out that I think I mentioned before VSL#3 which contains a lot more bacteria than other products, although it may have things in it you're not allowed, I'm not sure.
Copper
28-01-2011, 04:45 PM
When it is delivered I will be taking Culturelle Lactobacillus GG, which was what the nutrional practioner recommended.
I had to shop around on the internet as prices ranged from £25 to £18. Mine should have been delivered today so if it does not arrive tomorrow I will be cross.
Each capsule contains a guaranteed 10 billion live cells of Lactobacillus GG -- a quantity sufficient to restore and maintain a healthy bacterial balance in the digestive system when taken daily.
Claire, you suggested leaky gut but I was too tired to think about it. I think the York Test has been very good especially the nutritional practitioner consultation. I have had a quick look on the internet and many doctors are not convinced about leaky gut. I bet my GP would be one of those. I get the impression that you don't get tested for leaky gut on the NHS.
VSL#3 contains traces of gluten, soy, lactose and skimmed dehydrated milk. I don't think that would be good for me as I am avoiding soya, gluten (well keeping that to a minimum which is achieved by cutting out wheat) lactose and milk.
I have felt better today, less bloated. I have found fruit is not so bad and do manage to get to my 3 a day. Breakfast today was porridge (gluten free oats) and stewed apple and not a grain of sugar in sight. My diet is a bit like the diabetic diet so I need to eat more starch which keeps you going for longer. I tried the rye bread which does not have random seeds in it and that was much nicer. I am looking forward to my dinner tonight, chips, peas and free from fish fingers. This will be followed by strawberries (gift from mother in law) and a small amount of oat cream.
Has your Probiotic arrived yet?
I knew I'd suggested it, but I thought someone else had too. I've heard mixed things about it, but some people are convinced it's worked for them. I'm not really sure you can test for leaky gut, I guess it's just a guess a case of trial and error. I really hope it helps you.
Dinner sounds good :)
Copper
30-01-2011, 04:05 PM
No my probiotic has not arrived as the firm sent me something else by mistake. It should be delivered on Tuesday.
I have heard a lot about probiotics and essentially they are waste of time and money. I am willing to try this diet and probiotic as I have nothing to lose. Just having to be dairy and egg free would be so simple.
I am missing my sugar fix in the form of biscuits, not that I ate that many in a day anyway. I ate a banana yesterday and was ok which is good as in the past they made me feel ill. I won't be eating too many though as I don't want to push my luck too far.
Yesterday I cooked hotpot for dinner, a first for me. It was ok.
Today another experimental dinner in the shape of duck legs. I am looking forward to some roast potatoes, and the greens of course :)
Has it shown up yet? Is there any evidence that probiotics don't work? I know the yoghurts and things don't have enough bacteria in them to do anything, but other than that I've not heard much, especially not about the higher end ones.
How's it all going?
Copper
05-02-2011, 09:39 PM
Yes the Lactobacillus arrived on Tuesday. I have taken one a day as instructed. I have not really looked into the whole probiotics thing to be honest. I know the yohurts and small drink thingies are useless.
I have been well until late yesterday/today. I did not feel ill as such but had gas and trip to the loo twice today. I either overdid the onions this week or the banana is getting to me again. The banana did repeat on me so think it was what got to me. I used to have a problem with onions and bananas.
I have another banana to eat so will see what happens.
I did this test acouple of years ago. It helped me enormously. I had been without milk and all things lactose for a long while....however, milk still came up on my results. They said that indicated a very strong reaction. What surprised me was that egg also was a problem......and once I thought about it - it actually made sense. So, no more eggs. Much better. I had wondered why I had such a reaction to the flu vaccination. It's made using egg white. No more flu vaccinations for me!
I'm contemplating redoing the test - but it's pretty expensive!
P.S. contemplatingredoing the test because I still have intermittent problems. Hey Ho!
Copper
06-02-2011, 08:36 PM
I agree £265 is a lot of money. I am a lady of leisure and my husband has retired so paying for another test would be very hard for us.
rebecca c
12-02-2011, 01:42 PM
I have now done about a month on very low sugar and no eggs, I do the other things anyway. I have ordered my bacteria as recommended by Copper. I still will have to eat sugar as I work so hard it becomes impossible to keep my weight up but I will try to pace myself. I have baked today but put most of it in small batches in the freezer to get out over the next 2 weeks.
I am hoping that as I do some of these things anyway the repair will be quicker!
I have also ordered a huge load of epsom salts to bathe in for my phenol sensitivity and a full spectrum light to help my vitamin D deficiency as I am badly intolerant to the supplements.
So much going on at the moment - but I am feeling better every day :)
Copper
12-02-2011, 03:46 PM
I drink weak coffee with no sugar on this diet. It really is not that nice but needs must. Nairns gluten free porridge and fruit for breakfast keeps me going for about 3 hours. I then have a little rice cake to keep me going until lunch time.
Today I have not been feeling 100% but have no idea why. I have not eaten anything I shouldn't have.
rebecca c
12-02-2011, 05:38 PM
I guess you may have a detox period, when my sister and I came off the gluten we had a few months of night sweats with our periods. Not nice but they went again.
Copper
12-02-2011, 06:40 PM
Maybe the yeast population has dropped and my system is in shock :lol2:
Copper
06-03-2011, 07:26 PM
I had a phone call from York Tests a couple of weeks ago to see how I was doing. It is nice to know that they don't just take your money and leave you muddling along. I can of course phone them if I have any questions.
I had been thinking about the future. I can make a booking for another consultation in late April. I am guessing that if I feel fine, which I do at the moment, that we will planning my diet with a view to re-introducing various foods back in again. I was wondering what would happen at that crucial point. What would I do if it all went horribly wrong and I got ill again? I asked if I could pay for more consultations with the nutritional therapist.
The answer is yes. They have just started a new package. It is the Nutritional Support Programme (NSP). There is a £60 up front payment then a payment of £20 a month for 11 months. This gives you quarterly sessions with the nutritional therapist, they send you notes of what has been discussed, recipe ideas, email updates and money off vouchers. I will be paying for this once I have had my April session.
Copper
19-03-2011, 08:16 AM
I am nearly two thirds of the way through the diet.
I have lost half a stone :( I now weigh six and a quarter stone and I am border line underweight.
I don't usually worry about my weight but I have to weigh my kitten which means I weigh myself and then me and kitty.
Copper
15-04-2011, 10:22 PM
I am still on the restricted diet. I can't have my second consultation until the 4th May. The lady I need to speak to is on holiday until then.
I came across a forum today where another person had been told she had a leaky gut. She did the diet and says she can now eat anything. I would settle for dairy free as I will still have lactose intolerance.
I walked up the chocolate aisle in Tesco this week, torture!
rebecca c
19-04-2011, 09:50 PM
You are doing really well, I could do it all except the sugar. Keep going a bit longer and let us know how you get on when you try to go back to things.
Not long to go now Copper. I really hope it helps you. You may find that you're able to be a bit more flexible with the lactose, as I guess it depends how long the leaky gut has been a problem, you may find you can tolerate a little bit more of it, if you're braver than me, and give it a go. Just a thought.
Copper
20-04-2011, 04:46 PM
I am not brave and will not be testing my lactose tolerance.
I will be scared enough adding the other things in to my diet.
Copper
25-04-2011, 10:12 AM
Oh dear I only weigh 5 stone and 13 ounces today. I am under weight now and it is not good.
It will be interesting to see what the nutrionalist at York tests has to say about my weight problem.
rebecca c
27-04-2011, 05:23 PM
That is very worrying indeed, can you increase protein and fat in any way, an extra dish of chicken in the day perhaps?
Copper
27-04-2011, 08:51 PM
Chicken is one of my problem foods I have to exclude at the moment.
I have been eating more meat, chips, potatoes and crisps than I usually do. This week I have been eating rice pudding made with oat milk and oat cream.
My mother likes porridge for breakfast as it keeps her going all morning. I have porridge for breakfast and I am hungry 2 hours later. I now have some rye bread when I get hungry.
rebecca c
28-04-2011, 05:42 PM
that all sounds good - I use a rice and millet porridge occasionally, mostly i eat rice and millet pasta and a bit of fruit, but I eat a lot of crisps to keep my weight up and make cakes - the latter being of not much use to you.
Copper
04-05-2011, 05:06 PM
I had my second consultation this afternoon.
The poor woman was surprised at how much weight I had lost. I can add foods back into my diet, one thing at a time. I was originally told to leave a week between each new food but when she realised that I felt no different on the probiotics to when I just removed the problem foods, I was told to leave four days between each new food. I think that I will leave a week just to be safe.
I was advised to add wheat and gluten first as I need to get the weight back on now. I can also add sugar to my diet.
I have to keep eggs out of my diet for 6 months. I guess I will be baking my own cakes with the egg replacer for a while yet.
If I get problems I need to make another appointment to speak to the nutritional practitioner again.
I really hope the diet has fixed my gut.
I went to Tesco after the consultation and bought some biscuits and jam tarts :lol2: I have the bread maker on and I am looking forward to some lovely bread tomorrow. I might break open a chocolate bar this evening ;)
I will be keeping a food diary now so I can see what is going on.
rebecca c
04-05-2011, 06:20 PM
I am glad to hear they have told you to break fast and add foods back in. I hope all goes well -keep us posted on how it goes. I would love to do it and nearly do anyway but I would have the same weight problems as you have had if I stopped sugar, not good news at the best of times but impossible on my schedule.
Copper
08-05-2011, 09:18 AM
I have had 3 whole days of wheat in my diet and so far I am ok. I hope it lasts. If I get no reaction by next Thursday I will add soya back into my diet. This will be in the form of soya lecithin which is in so many foods these days.
I am keeping a food diary so I can see how much wheat I have eaten in a day. I have started slowly and now I am back to the normal amount for me.
I am really enjoying my home baked bread and jammy wheel biscuits :lol2: All dairy free.
Copper
11-05-2011, 06:59 PM
I have eaten wheat and gluten for a week and no illness :lol2:
Tonight I ate some soya ice cream. I will make sure that I have soya every day and see what happens.
I still can't believe that I am ok with wheat.
Helen SCD
12-05-2011, 01:49 PM
Fingers crossed Copper, I will not say any more and tempt fate!!!!!!
Copper
12-05-2011, 02:19 PM
I am still feeling ok. More soya ice cream for pudding tonight. I will have to eat some chocolate which contains soya lecithin. I have had the latter in my fridge since Xmas.
I am not allowing myself to get too excited yet.
Copper
14-05-2011, 01:37 PM
I am still ok with wheat, gluten and soya.
I am still trying to decide between maize and chicken as the next thing to be added to my diet.
Copper
18-05-2011, 09:05 AM
I have been eating wheat/gluten for two weeks and soya for one week. I can add chicken to my diet now. It will be strange to walk up the chicken aisle in the supermarket today.
I still feel well which is amazing. The weight is going back on but very very slowly, a whole pound last week.
rebecca c
19-05-2011, 06:36 PM
That is great news Copper! I guess I will have to give it a try sometime soon.
Copper
19-05-2011, 09:42 PM
If you intend to do the 3 months of diet with minimum sugar you should seriously think about the best time to do it. I am not sure I would have coped on the diet if I had to do all the housework and go out to work.
Copper
27-05-2011, 02:10 PM
Progress update. I am feeling well and I have added wheat/gluten, soya, chicken and maize to my diet. This leaves turkey, lactofree milk and eggs to test. I have to leave eggs for 6 months so I can't use them in baking until late July.
I still can't quite believe that I can eat all these foods again.
rebecca c
28-05-2011, 01:56 PM
I dont think I can do it - but the idea of expanding my diet again makes it very tempting. I have lactose in my singulair anyway and I think I need to take that for another year now things are improving. I cant take the alternatives with sweetners in as they make my tummy anti social. I am also taking double doses of anti histamine twice a day for the hayfever this year it has been bad - so it will have to wait. I may do a soya test in the summer.
Copper
31-05-2011, 01:32 PM
I fully understand your concerns about this diet.
I am still ok with a diet which contains wheat/gluten, soya, chicken and maize. I have eaten a lot of soya ice cream in the last three weeks. I don't go mad with all of these foods apart from wheat which I eat every day in an effort to increase my weight.
I am still struggling to put weight on and last week failed to put on any weight :( I am trying to eat more and not rush around too much. The perfect excuse to watch tennis in the afternoon.
rebecca c
01-06-2011, 06:36 PM
Good news is that my bone density has improved so I am very pleased about that.
Copper
24-06-2011, 09:10 AM
I have been putting on weight each week, about a pound a week. I am still underweight but in about two months I should have regained all the weight I lost.
The day before yesterday I tried some Lactofree hard cheese. I will have some more today for lunch. I have still had no symptoms from anything I have reintroduced into my diet :rolleyes:
I only have eggs to reintroduce now and I have to wait until the end of July. As my reaction to eggs was quick (within 2 hours) I might be allergic rather than intolerant. My plan is to not eat eggs as such but eat cakes, puddings etc which contain egg and see what happens.
Not having to worry about wheat, gluten and soya makes shopping so much easier. Dairy free is easy now :lol2:
rebecca c
25-06-2011, 07:06 PM
That is such good news Copper :)
Helen SCD
27-06-2011, 01:00 PM
I am glad to hear that it is going so well for you, Copper.
Copper
04-08-2011, 09:53 PM
I have introduced egg into my diet. I have only eaten cake and so far I have been ok. I have done this for a week now.
I only have to avoid dairy because I am lactose intolerant. I do eat Lactofree cheese now and again (the hard and soft cheeses). I don't like the taste of Lactofree milk any more :)
To sum up I have spent the last three months adding foods back into my diet. I am fine with everything that made me ill before the York Test. I hope it all lasts. The minimum sugar and free from many foods diet for three months has certainly worked for me. If I had not had the York test I would still be on a free from many foods diet and presumably acquiring other food intolerances. As chicken, maize and turkey registered as 1 in the test I guess they would have been the next set of foods to make me ill. I would probably not have been able to work out that they were causing me to feel ill as I did not eat them every day. I would never have thought that chicken would be a problem food. I guess this shows that any food can cause problems.
I am still under weight though :mellow:
Copper
08-08-2011, 07:17 PM
I have been full of gas for the last couple of days. My gut is not a 100% happy :( I am pretty sure that egg is the problem.
I identified egg as a problem over 30 years ago and stopped eating eggs but still ate foods which contained egg. My reaction time was with in two hours of eating an egg which the nutrionalist at York Test thought might indicate an egg allergy rather than an intolerance.
I am going to have a few egg free days and if I am ok I will try egg again. If I feel off again I will know it is just egg.
I can live on an egg and dairy free diet :)
Copper
18-08-2011, 01:49 PM
I have challenged my body with egg again. I ate some cake which contained egg every afternoon and after 6 days my gut was not happy again.
I guess egg is a problem and I can live with that as I am currently eating home made dairy free and egg free chocolate muffins. I could get away with eating the odd thing containing egg if I eat out somewhere. I have found eating out egg free really easy it is the dairy free which is tricky. All sandwiches are out as they have the wrong margarine or butter. Good job I rarely try to eat out at lunch time.
Helen SCD
26-08-2011, 05:07 PM
Glad to hear it is still going well , I hope that it contiues to work for you and makes you life easier.
Sammie
03-09-2011, 09:49 AM
Hey Copper
thanks for replying to my message ^^ I just read about your intolerance's OMG :( Dairy and egg that sucks. but i'm glad to hear that your diet is going well i hope you gain the weight again ^^
Copper
03-09-2011, 12:26 PM
No matter what I do I am still only putting on a very small amount of weight. I now weigh 6.2 at night and 6.1 in the morning :)
I have been doing some heavy work in the garden so I will have to see what that does to my weight. Yesterday I was very hungry by dinner time :lol2:
I am still well on my dairy and egg free diet. I have unintentionally cut down on wheat. I am currently having porridge for breakfast rather than toast. Perhaps I should have a few toast days and see if more wheat affects me.
Copper
24-10-2011, 09:50 AM
It is time for another update. Today I weigh 6 stone 6 pounds. Only another 5 pounds to go to reach my before drastic diet weight.
Copper
08-12-2011, 11:57 AM
Time for another update.
I weigh 6 and a half stone now so only another 3 pounds or so to go to get to the weight I was before I did the diet.
I am still ok with all of the foods but I make sure I don't have too much of anything in a day. My wheat intake is not as high as it used to be not that it was a lot before. I do eat more oat products in a day which contain gluten, cross contamination I believe.
My eldest daughter has similar intolerances to me so she asked her GP about this diet and told him about my experience. The GP said it was worth a try.
She has done the three months of diet and one month of pro biotic. She has been adding things back into her diet and so far it has gone well. She only has wheat and gluten left to try. These are the two things which made her ill very quickly. Like me she will still be lactose intolerant but we both agree that is easy to cope with.
rebecca c
10-12-2011, 05:25 PM
More good news - keep us posted
Copper
02-01-2012, 02:17 PM
Eldest daughter has been home for the holidays. She ate a fried egg on Friday and was fine afterwards. She was very happy.
She is adding more wheat to her diet slowly. So far the diet appears to have worked for her too.
I am still well as long as I stick to my dairy and egg free diet.
Vickyh
10-01-2012, 07:07 PM
Glad you are doing well copper. I had the York test done on niamh after reading your posts and I got more than I bargained for with the results:
Cows milk - 3
Egg white - 2
Gluten - 2
Yeast - 2
Carrot -1
Cranberry - 1
Egg yolk - 1
Wheat - 1
She is borderline for other products but ignorin those for the time!!
Vicky x
Copper
10-01-2012, 10:25 PM
Wow that is a lot of problem foods. I had borderline foods too and when I was on my diet I was allowed the borderline foods but no more than once a week. (I think that is what I was told to do). Most of the time I cut all my problem foods out as that was the easiest thing to do.
I was told that yeast showing up was an indication of leaky gut, hence the diet and probiotics to fix my gut.
It worked for me and it appears to have worked for my grown up daughter too.
What have you been advised to do with Niamh? A diet would be harder with a small growing child I guess.
Vickyh
11-01-2012, 08:21 AM
I have been told to try my best with an exclusion diet but to definately stick to cows milk exclusion when she goes to parties, holiday etc. cows milk I need to exclude for 9 mths with egg, gluten and wheat with scores of 2 for 6 mths then those at a score of 1 for 3 mths. All the products that she is bother line to which include beef, broccoli, cauliflower, tuna and shell fish she can have 1-2 times a week.
I have scanned and emailed my results to niamhs gastroenterologist so I'm waiting for his advice before I exclude more than cows milk. I hadn't been told significance of yeast and what it could mean - all I know is that for a 6 yr old it is very hard to exclude that from her diet as she has a sweet tooth!! My other issue is I work full time so she has to go to after school club 2 days a week and with a childminder the rest of the time so I'm not sure how realistic a exclusion diet of all avoid foods is!! I'm still convinced she has Coeliacs disease do may push for further testing now.
On a positive note she will now drink coconut milk so I have breakfast sorted.
Will let you know how we get on.
Vicky x
Copper
11-01-2012, 08:58 AM
I hope the gastroenterologist can suggest something that will help Niamh get better.
I found yeast easy to exclude but only because I ate rye bread which had no added yeast. Rye bread is an acquired taste! The hard part was keeping sugar to a minimum. The hardest thing to exclude was wheat. I did not have to exclude gluten as such, because most of the gluten was removed from my diet by excluding wheat. Eggs were also hard to avoid as egg is in all cakes and most of the free from foods found in supermarkets. :( I did a lot of baking.
At least I only had to do this for three months.
Copper
20-02-2012, 03:21 PM
I have had the odd not so good day but I can't find a food to blame. I don't feel ill just a bit bloated so I am not going to worry about it. I try not to eat too much wheat/gluten. I will have to see what happens in the next few weeks.
My daughter has developed a problem with wheat/gluten again :( She intends to stick to a wheat free diet for a few weeks and then try wheat again.
rebecca c
22-02-2012, 06:56 PM
I have managed about a month on the diet but can not avoid chicken, I have avoided all sugar so far and taken daily acidophilus. To start with I did not drop weight but I am now. No improvement in my tummy yet and some clear hormonal links to the constipation and gas I get.
I think you are right to limit the exclusions for Niamh and dont exclude gluten until after testing.
rebecca c
04-03-2012, 02:28 PM
Just over a month in - I have had a bad tummy this weekend but hope it is a bug although is more like IBS in that it is swinging around. I guess there would be a detox effect at around week 6 so it may be that. I have not found the no sugar too hard so I shall hang in there for a few more weeks and see what happens. I may add eggs in soon but my nose is starting to improve and apart from the sugar that is the only additional thing that is different from my normal diet.
Copper
04-03-2012, 10:48 PM
I have put all the weight back on now and a little bit more! It took a whole year to put the weight back on.
I try not to have too much of any one food in a day apart from oats.
I never had a detox effect and I did not suddenly feel like a new woman on the acidophilus.
I am keeping well but sometimes get a little bloated and gassy but have not been able to identify a food as the cause.
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