Dairyfree Pizza

[Bet]

Has anyone tried to make a pizza without cheese? I know this might sound daft but my daughter really wants to eat one like her sister. I think the cheezly has soya in which is no good for her.

Just wondered if this has been tried at all and if worked out successful?

[Pam]

I don't know of any dairy free/soya free cheese but I make mine with Tofutti slices. My youngest doesn't like cheese on her pizza so she just has lots of tomato sauce and not a lot of topping, though the sauce dries up very quickly and tends to burn if you leave it too long. Perhaps if you sprayed the top with some of that one-cal spray oil it might help it not to dry out?

You could try doing a calzone (folded pizza) that wouldn't dry out.

[Lan]

Hi Bet,

I have tried a pizza topping but with all soya cheese. Have you tried rice cheeses. Not sure of the manufacturers but know they make soya free cheeses.

Kind Regards,


Lan. :D

[emi_150]

i tried the rice slices on a pizza :D they werent too bad, didnt taste of anything tho really and they dont melt like cheese, just kind of go runny with a brown top!!!

I much prefer making dairy-free pizzas with sheeps cheese, i can eat this, but it tastes so much like cheese that i get the psychological reactions even before i eat it!!! hehe!

[Pam]

The only rice slices that I have seen contain cow's milk, but I can't remember what brand they were. The same company did soya cheese slices that were dairyfree but unfortunately I've been caught out twice and bought milk filled rice slices, assuming that they would be safe. If you know of some others please let me know.

Emi, are you sure that you're not actually reacting to the sheep's milk? Most people with allergies/intolerance can't eat the milk of any animal though some just can't take cow's milk but are ok with other sorts.

[Bet]

Thanks for the replies - dosent seem like there is any easy solution - being soya free as well really limits things. Am trying to make all these different dishes at the mo as her diet is so limited and most of the time she just rejects it all! My other daughter is getting a more varied diet as a result as she will eat the things I make but this wasnt the main reson for doing them.

I think Jamie Oliver needs to come to our house and sort my 5 yr old out!

[matt]

you could try using a white sauce instead of cheese, flour and dairy free spread then dairy free milk. assuming you can get them soya free. spread this over the tomato sauce then go with the rest of the toppings.

make the tomato suace yourself with other stuff chopped up really small carrots and so on simmer until really soft then mash in. makes it taste better and hides the veggies from fussy eaters.

use jamie's techniques. 1 get her to help then eat what she makes and make the pizza for the other child with lots of variety...when she complains let her pick the extra things to top hers with.....psychology works with kids.:lol2:

[Pam]

My 5 year old was much the same, in fact she was such a faddy eater that the dietician said she should continue being prescribed Wysoy until she was 5 years old and have a pint a day. She has recently become much more adventurous and will usually try almost everything I put in front of her, even if she doesn't eat it all. My 8 year old is more of a problem, he decides that he doesn't like something before he's even seen it. My eldest is 12 and he was very faddy too until he got to about 7 or 8 and now he loves his food.

[cnc]

Limited diets in kids, I personally don't think is too much of an issue, I only ate a very limited diet as a kid- Scrambled eggs (for pretty much every meal) and occassionally fish fingers when I was about 3 or 4, I'm still relatively fussy, but improving gradually (I enjoy food though) but it doesn't seem to have done me too much harm. (I'm well above average height, and as healthy as most other people).

[ellsie]

I always eat pizza without cheese and I get it from our Dominos pizza shop every week. I have not yet found a cheese substitute that I like so I do without and have another topping instead. Also egg is lovely on pizza, just crack it on b4 cooking or tuna and onion,mmmmmmmm:drool:

[pop_pixie]

I know we're not supposed to mention Sain****ys at the moment but they do a really nice cheddar made from goats milk. Because it's a hard cheese you can grate if and it melts quite nicely too.

[matt]

trouble when we've got restricted diets that we have to shop wherever we can, so if that means sainsburys then so be it. just be aware to check the ingredients. always ways to get round problems just use a little imagination.

have fun.

[Copper]

Can't eat goats milk - still not tempted to put a foot inside that S**** store.

[emi_150]

Pam - i cant tell if im reacting to the sheeps cheese or not! i mean i can still remember how bad my reaction is to cheese so just the smell of cheese makes me feel funny, which makes it kind of difficult to figure out. My throat didnt swell up, but my mouth did go all slimy n weird ... <-- that sounds particularly attractive! :D but i had that before i ate the cheese just based on thinking about it. I also get a kind of chest pain... not quite sure how that fits in, but i get it everytime i react.

[matt]

you get that from the thought or smell of cheese???

i might be wrong but that would appear to be a psychosomatic reaction, ie one which your mind creates as opposed to an actual allergic reaction. no less real or uncomfortable but curable with hypnotherapy or proper cognative behavioural therapy. might be worth looking at as you could retrain yourself and make life alot easier.

[Copper]

i might be wrong but that would appear to be a psychosomatic reaction, ie one which your mind creates as opposed to an actual allergic reaction. no less real or uncomfortable but curable with hypnotherapy or proper cognative behavioural therapy. might be worth looking at as you could retrain yourself and make life alot easier.

So what is your excuse then Matt? You just don't want to be trained do you? Typical bloke :)

[matt]

that's actually worried me before now. if mine is psychosomatic like the doctor says then am i unconsiously resisting getting better? but why? i mean it's not like i enjoy being like this.

the other problem is that i have so many different probs which all interact. a specific one does react well to the above solution if it can be dealt with in isolation.

i could resolve my eating disorder if i could force myself to eat more, make myself feel bloated, but that makes me feel sick cue panic attacks and stop eating. same time i've had marriage break down, hassle with seeing my daughter, insomnia, ibs, post traumatic stress (flashbacks and nightmares etc etc) yes, i'm a bloody wreck. i wish the getwell fairy would visit and cure these things but it hasn't happened yet. current suggestion is that i take a break and come back to some form of treatment in the autumn.....

probably more info than you needed. but speak to your doctor about the problem as it does sound more of a mental reaction than a physical one and might be curable, if you want to cure it that is.

[jill]

I always order pizza without cheese. I find although the toppings don't stop on as well, I taste the flavour of everything else much more. I've ordered without cheese when I've eaten at Pizza Hut and was asked if I wanted another topping on instead. I had a Meat Feast from our local Pizza takeaway last night which could have done with more tomato sauce on but it was good. It also is less fattening without cheese on.

[linny]

Emi it could be a panic attack, as you're panicking about whether to eat it, or the consequences of eating it. I get panic attacks (for other reasons) and they're quite frequent at the moment. I get chest pains and many other horrible symptoms. I'd not bother eating it, avoid it completely!

[matt]

it's not unusual for a panic attack to be mistaken as a heart attack! they can be that real and strong. i can usually control mine after a lot of practise. but i'd agree just avoid life's too short.

[Copper]

Matt, I was only teasing you. Maybe you could eat more by building up slowly. An extra spoonful of vegetables with your dinner for instance. It will take time but that way you would get there and without feeling sick. I hate that feeling too.

[matt]

no offfence taken i was just agreeing that a panic attack can be very real symptom wise.

fill up on veggies? my dietician at one point told me to eat everything they said not to. fat, sugar etc etc. my prob is that my stomach has shrunk. the only way to expand it is to eat a little too much and stretch it!!! ie feel bloated and sick. so that's not going to happen then.....i get by day to day, that's all i need to do.B)

[Copper]

I agree that your stomach has shrunk and it will have to be stretched. Would one extra spoonful of veggies or ice cream really make you feel ill? Easy for me to say I know.

[matt]

well lets put it like this. i had mackerel last night, tasted slightly different, but then i haven't had it for a couple of weeks. my brain then convinced me that it was off and i've spent the last 12 hours trying to control panic attacks trying to convince myself i'm not about to get food poisoning!!!!!

i know it's daft, but that's what i'm like. so feeling actually bloated and slightly ill.....just ain't going to happen.:(

[zoefruitcake]

Poor you :(

How about the little and often approach? 6 small meals a day. I get very hungry in the mornings so I tend to eat on the hour every hour, after lunch I loose interest

[linny]

Trying to prepare dinner depresses me, seriously. I have to eat every couple of hours due to gastritis. But I suffer with fatigue (psoriatic arthritis symptom). It's worst in the late afternoon/early evening. By the time I get to eating dinner my appetite is about zero. The whole effort of preparing and cooking dinner is a major hurdle for me. I try not to worry about it now, I just try to eat what I fancy, within reason! When my arthritis is bad I find it hard to cut/chop food and lift saucepans etc., also bending to put things in and out of the oven is hazardous! :( My daughter has a school dinner so I just prepare tea for her. My husband is great, if I haven't cooked he'll prepare a meal for himself when he gets home. He appreciates it when I do cook a 'proper meal'!

[matt]

i have my routines and set times when i eat and how much. if that routine if left alone i happily get by day to day. but ishould try to make myself break the routine and push against the boundaries. it's just easier not to.

lazyness and comfort.....must try harder . the epitaph of my life. i think nearly every report and assessment has included that phrase. oh well could be worse.

[rebecca c]

I have become a bit of a control freak myself, I have always had a need to control too much but because I have had so little help from the doctors (until recently) I have had to make myself better. It is also part of my personality. Most of the things that have been suggested by the doctors I have felt have been the wrong approach and have been aimed at getting rid of me in the short term not helping me in the long term eg immodium for IBS or prozac because being ill is making me stressed (not depressed). Then I have had some success with nutritional mangement but as things seem to be getting worse again and I am starting to doubt how many more intolerences I can accomodate whilst continuing to eat healthily.

But it does seem clear to me now I have a better doctor that telling you it is all in your head for some stressed and overworked doctors this is an excuse for not doing thier job properly and getting you out of their surgery. Also the medical profession as a whole are not reacting to the relatively new problem of people having all these allergies fast enough.

[matt]

it's strange they never get their heads around that one ie i'm depressed because i've been ill for ages not ......i'm ill because i'm depressed. why do docotrs insist on the second version? other than it means they dish out the happy pills and get you out of the door! doesn't cure you but you feel happier so you don't bug them again, unless you have bad reaction and top yourself like some have!!!

[rebecca c]

Apparently somebody else who went to my old doctors was told she had post natal depression, she told them that she felt like that before kids and showed the the lump under her arm. They insisted they were right. On changing practice she found she had hodgkins lymphoma...this kind of reaction does not seem uncommon among my female friends with children, most have had similar experiences of the doctors listening to the stress reaction more than the symptoms.:starwars: children asked me to use that one. i will need a bit of jedi control when i see consultant next week though.

[matt]

well got phone call from my doctors secretary yesterday.....the long and short is "please sod off to the new doctors asap and no you can't have a final appointment" shmae really as the main reaon i wanted an appointment was to say thanks for his caring attitude (up till now) and give him bottle of wine. his attitude really sucks. so off to new doctors on monday to register.:rant:

[rebecca c]

Sometimes a fresh approach can reap rewards. Good luck with them.

[linny]

All I can say is 'Enjoy the wine Matt'!:wine:

Cheers! :cheers: