Advice Please!!

[LJB]

Hi There,

Im new to the group, and have had a Dairy Allergy now for about 9 months, although i have suffered with stomach problems for about 10 years!!

This Site is excellent, im really pleased to have found it!

I have a question i would love someone to answer, as i am avoiding certain foods at the moment, until i find an answer - Vegetable Fat, is this a milk derivative, as i have always thought it was ok, but looking on this site, it appears as no no??

Can anyone shed any light on this, as i absolutely love the Frys chocolate bars, but they contain Vegetable Fat.

Cheers

LJB :rolleyes:

[floliketheriver]

I don't think vegeatable fat is dairy.. i blieve dark chocolate to be ok as its not dairy..

acoording to this below... vegeatable fat is veg n fruit??

Aug. 24, 2001 -- Women who consume diets loaded with fruits, vegetables, grains, nuts, and olive oil are less likely to develop type 2 diabetes than those women who eat fewer of these vegetable fats, a new study suggests.

also I found this..

Instead of…
Butter Sauté in water or vegetable broth, use lemon for dressing, or switch to vegetable margarines and oils.
Ice Cream

Try frozen desserts like Soy Delicious, Tofutti, Rice Dream, fruit sorbets, and ices. You'll never want to go back to the cholesterol and saturated fat of ice cream.
Milk

Try chocolate, vanilla, almond, and plain soymilk. Excellent for cooking, on cereal, in coffee and hot chocolate -- use it any way you'd use milk. Comes in low-fat varieties, too.

Cheese Check health food stores for soy cheese, which is great on pizza, on sandwiches, and in sauces. You can also make a great, creamy "cheese" sauce using nutritional yeast flakes

hope this helps!!

Irmgard

[Lan]

Hi all,

On the question of vegetable fat. It has been included on the website as when I was diagnosed 5 years ago, I was told to avoid vegetable fat at it was a dairy product.

However I am very dubious on this and will be checking with my dietician in November. Will keep you posted on this.

Kind Regards,

Lan. :D :D
(Website Owner)

[jill]

Well i'm not a doctor or anything but how can vegetable fat be a dairy product? I think somebody has told you a load of rubbish here. Basically vegetables are grown and dairy are from animals. Totally different in my eyes!

Jill

[Steve]

Originally posted by jill@Oct 5 2003, 08:16 AM
Well i'm not a doctor or anything but how can vegetable fat be a dairy product? I think somebody has told you a load of rubbish here. Basically vegetables are grown and dairy are from animals. Totally different in my eyes!

Jill
I personally don't see how vegtable fat can be a problem, but i have seen it mentioned in several unrelated places about it being dairy.

I would say if in doubt, avoid it.

It would be nice if someone could get some proof either way on this.

[Pam]

Maybe the confusion comes from vegetable based spreads eg sunflower margarine, many of which do contain dairy products. A pure vegetable oil should contain nothing but the oil from the vegetable it is made of. I've just looked at my veg oil bottle and its ingredients list is simply Rapeseed oil. White Flora contains sunflower oil, vegetable oil, hydrogenated vegetable oil and vitamin E. I can't see how they could possibly sneak any dairy products into either.

I think a major cause for concern are the shop bought products which list vegetable margarine amongst their ingredients as we cannot be sure if this is totally dairy free. A real pain in the neck! I use only Pure (soya version) and White Flora in my cooking together with vegetable or olive oil though there are one or two other dairy free spreads available.

[veganbuddy]

Hi.

I am a vegan campaigner, and one of the things we do is check out all products to see if they are free of animal products including dairy. Try out our website www.isitvegan.info to check things out.

I can catagorically state that vegetable oil is not a milk by product. It is a vegetable product. Vegetable margarines often include milk by products, like whey powder. (Flora contains this).

Fry's chocolate cream, although technically dairy free (no animal ingredients at all are listed in the ingredients) cannot be guaranteed as one hundred percent dairy free, because of the risk of cross contamination. This is because they wash the machine down between cycles of making different goods. This goes for all Cadbury's and Elizabeth Shaw chocolate products, as well as most chocolate bourbon biscuits. It depends on how serious your allergy is if you want to risk it.

We have another website www.realfood.org.uk which is running a campaign to increase the availability of non-dairy milks and margarines at outside caterers. If anyone is interested in the campaign check us out.

Hope this answers your question. If you have anything else you want to ask us about, please let me know, at mary@realfood.org.uk

Mary

[Steve]

Originally posted by veganbuddy@Oct 17 2003, 03:47 PM
I can catagorically state that vegetable oil is not a milk by product. It is a vegetable product. Vegetable margarines often include milk by products, like whey powder. (Flora contains this).

We have another website www.realfood.org.uk which is running a campaign to increase the availability of non-dairy milks and margarines at outside caterers.
Hi Mary,

Thanks for clearing that up. :D

I'll add both of these sites to the links section of the website.

[wayne]

Originally posted by LJB@Jul 24 2003, 03:13 PM
Hi There,

Im new to the group, and have had a Dairy Allergy now for about 9 months, although i have suffered with stomach problems for about 10 years!!

This Site is excellent, im really pleased to have found it!

I have a question i would love someone to answer, as i am avoiding certain foods at the moment, until i find an answer - Vegetable Fat, is this a milk derivative, as i have always thought it was ok, but looking on this site, it appears as no no??

Can anyone shed any light on this, as i absolutely love the Frys chocolate bars, but they contain Vegetable Fat.

Cheers

LJB :rolleyes:
Frys chocolate bars are free from milk products but are produced on the same line as chocolate that contains milk so there is a risk of contamination, I think it depends how severe your allergy is my daughter is Anaphylactic so we can,t take the risk, but maybe if its just an intolerence you might be ok. My daughter ate it for 4 years before we found out and she never had a reaction to it. After eights are milk free providing they are the ones made in England all the other countries use butterfat in the ingredients. you might want to try the new chocolate bar made by Kinnerton thats milk free its available at Sainsburys £1.09 per 100g bar its really nice.