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tigerlily
12-10-2005, 10:12 AM
I have been advised to use a children's toothpaste with a Fluoride contents of
1000pp to protect Eden's teeth properly. Yet most children's toothpastes I have come across only state 500pp of Fluoride.
Can anybody recommend one that has 1000opp. (Even our dentist can't help...don't ask!)

Vanessa.

Pen
12-10-2005, 09:19 PM
Dear Tigerlily

To think that I used to give my young children fluoride drops, and then fluoride toothpaste as they got older. With hindsight, I definitely would not have done so.

I haven't used fluoride toothpastes for years, despite what dentists may claim about its necessity and safety. My advise to you would be to do lots of research to consider whether any level of fluoride in toothpaste is safe. Fluoride is a poison! I just did a websearch with the words "Dangers of Fluoride in Toothpaste" and came up with about 30 hits. This is just a small paragraph from the link below:
"Well, in case you didn't know it, fluoride is highly toxic. In fact, before fluoride was deemed a "cavity fighter," it was used as insecticide and rat poison. It's true. Even more surprising is that when it comes to dental hygiene, fluoride actually does more harm than good."
http://www.ghchealth.com/where-the-yellow-went.html

Pen

Copper
12-10-2005, 09:35 PM
I know somebody who has damaged teeth as his mother gave him fluoride tablets when he was a child. We have fluride toothpaste and flouride in the water so that should be enough.

Pen
12-10-2005, 09:42 PM
I think it is disgraceful that fluoride is added to any water supply--it denies choice to the consumer.

matt
13-10-2005, 03:46 AM
but what else would they do with it?

just a handy way of using up an industrial byproduct that is highly toxic. for the sake of posibly stopping a few fillings....

and as regards denying consumer choice...it isn't all that easy to find a toothpaste that doesn't have it.:angry:

Pam
13-10-2005, 07:19 AM
When I was a child we used to get fluoride treatment at the dentists. You sat there with some rubber moulds in your mouth and these were filled with a flouride liquid that you bathed your teeth in for a length of time.

My teeth aren't too good now, I have a lot of erosion and sensitivity and more than my fair share of fillings.

Pen
13-10-2005, 04:31 PM
and as regards denying consumer choice...it isn't all that easy to find a toothpaste that doesn't have it.:angry:
I have a couple of different brands without fluoride that I bought in a health food store. Thinking about it, all my toiletries come from there (including a wonderful aluminum-free and propylene glycol-free deodorant). I have stopped buying supermarket brands because of the unnecessary things that are in the ingredients. Nearly all of the nasty household cleaners have been cleared out of the house too, and I tend to use only borax, washing soda, baking soda and vinegar as household cleaners (even for my laundry). They actually do a better job of cleaning and there are no harmful chemicals to toxify the body.

rebecca c
13-10-2005, 05:48 PM
Pam -I used to hate those fluoride treatments - they were soooo disgusting and my dentist was a really wierd woman.:unsure:

But my dad used to but us a coke afterwards for being good. Bit of a soft touch my dad was in the best possible way though!

As for putting fluoride in the water - it would certainly make my life more expensive because you wouldnt catch me drinking it or letting my kids drink it for that matter. I have been told so many times that such and such wont harm me only to get really ill when I have reluctantly tried it. Doing this would make no allowances for people in the population who have higher sensitivity like us.

Kingfisher do a fluoride free one. I use just bicarb of soda because cant find anything else I would risk

Nic
13-10-2005, 09:29 PM
Some places have naturally flouridated (is that the right verb?) water, as it comes from the rocks that the water flows through. A few have artificially flouridated water, but not many because the law has only just been changed to allow it, and its very controversial. So it depends where you live as to whether you would need to add flouride to get to the recommended level.

I had flouride tablets as a kid, and have very solid teeth. Unlike both my parents. So I'm fairly convinced that it was a good thing for me, but I haven't done all the research that some of you have done.

Nic

tigerlily
16-10-2005, 08:44 PM
Eden has CHD (Congenital Heart Disease) and "Heart Children" are prone to teeth problems. I can see the point about fluoride being dangerous in general BUT judging from what I read regarding CHD studies and fluoride (i.e not using it for those children)) and speaking to other concerned parents about it, I would choose to use Fluoride in safe doses for my daughter any day.

Tom's of Maine and Weleda make Fluoride-free toothpaste.

Vanessa.

Copper
16-10-2005, 09:22 PM
The key thing is "safe doses". Too much is not good for teeth, so I am told.