Milk proteins

[FermeGriet]

Uff, where to start. Here should be about experiences. 23 years of mine is not so less I guess.
OK, but I start so.
First of all, does anyone of you is also not allowed to eat pork? I can't eat it because it is also connected with milk intolerance.
According to my doctor I am not allowed to eat some friuts like bananas, oranges, grapes, plums, pears.
Dark bread is also not allowed. If I eat even the smallest amount of things which are not allowed, I suffer a lot and hospital became my second home.
I would like to know in what condition you are and how much do you suffer eating not allowed things? I would also like to know, on what kind of diet you are?
Probably I will have much more questions later on so be patient.
Greetings to all of you

[Pam]

Hi

I joined the site because my daughter is milk intolerant and I needed more information. I later decided to go milk free myself and feel a whole lot better for it.

Fortunately, we only seem to have problems with milk and no other foods but Lan who runs the site has trouble with lots of different foods so she might be able to help you more.

In the UK more people are becoming aware of food intolerances so most shops label their foods well now and many supermarkets offer 'free from' foods which don't contain milk or wheat etc. I manage to find dairy free alternatives to most things and there are biscuits, bread, sweets etc that don't contain milk if you look hard enough. Health food shops can also be a good place to look for suitable foods so we are quite well catered for really. Jewish people don't eat dairy produce so Kosher foods are usually suitable for dairy free people, though it depends where you live as to whether you can find a jewish shop locally.

You really need to be quite inventive in your cooking and be prepared to make more things yourself so that you know what goes into them. Most recipes work just as well using alternative milk and margarine.

I hope you find the site useful, look at the links to find other sites that can help too, there are one or two that might provide a bit more information for you.

[FermeGriet]

Thanks Pam,

In Poland we also have food like "free from" but I also not always can eat it. So the best way is to make food on my own, what in Poland is very normal thing. We still don't "trust" the half prepared food :D
I have my own things I eat, and later on I post you all also some ideas and recipies. I am just curious, what is the condition of people here. For instance, although I am on diet since I was born, recently I started to have many problems with right sugar level. According to my doctor it is also connceted with milk protein intolerance. Does anyone of you here has also similar problems?

[PJMULLIS]

Hello I am new and have been tryign to find foods that are dairy free because my five month old is allergic to milk protein. I am nursing my baby so I have to watch what I eat to make sure I am not consuming any dairy products. This is hard because there are so many hidden names for milk derivative products. One I am confused about is a ingredient with MALTED BARLEY FLOUR. Is there anyone that is faamiliar with this and can tell me if this is a stay away from product. Generally I stay away from anything I can't find any info on, but I am so limited in the foods that I can eat now, and am looking for a variety to add to my diet.

[matt]

welcome to the site. some other poor soul up at a godforsaken hour! can't help with the malted barley flour, hopefully one of the others will be able to when they finally wake up.

loads of links on the site for different foods and receipe ideas. or if you've any specific questions fire away. it is daunting to start with but once you get used to what to look out for it becomes alot easier.

good to have you here, ask aaway someone will know the answer.:)

[Pam]

I once rang Kelloggs to ask about their breakfast cereals and was told that malt came from plants and was therefore dairy free. You only need to worry when it is a malted milk product like the malted milk biscuits or Horlicks/Ovaltine as these will more than likely contain milk. (Just looked on Google, malt comes from barley)

Welcome to the site by the way, please stick around and ask as many questions as you like or join in the general chat.

[zoefruitcake]

I was interested to read the link between sugar levels and intollerance. On top of my numerous other problems I get what I call the LOW SUGAR SHAKES which is when I haven't eaten frequently enough, or done something strenuous. My hands shake, my legs go weak and I get confused. I've had loads of tests and they have failed to find a cause for it, so I just have to be careful. Maybe it is all connected...

[cnc]

Hi, I joined the site with a suspected lactose intolerance, and was diagnosed very recently as being lactose intolerant.
Having had a look on Google, malted barley flour is just a normal grain- so is dairy free.

Welcome to the site, both of you. Hope you stay around and chat/ share more information. :)

[ellsie]

Hi and welcome to the site. I am also allergic to milk protein and although I eat a few preprepared things I do tend to stick to fresh. Some of the things I like are cheese free pizzas (check ingredients of dough base) Swedish glace ice cream, and I use mayo a lot for mixing with fish or egg. I use mayo on pasta with other ingredients to make a pasta topping instead of white sauce,and I love lloyd grossman tomato and basil!

[Copper]

Welcome to P J Mullis and Ferme Griet. I hope that you come back with more posts even if they are only chat posts.

I was born with lactose intolerance which I recovered from by the time I was two months old. From then on my childhood was full of unexplained periods of bad stomach pains and feeling sick. I now know that this was the lactose intolerance back again. Now I am lactose intolerant again for ever as I far as I can tell. On top of this over the years I have developed some other food allergies currently -

tea
pickled onions
a preservative usually found in pies and burgers
possibly an oil used for crisps
bananas
eggs

I try to eat fresh food as much as possible. I am also trying hard to increase my fruit intake. I have even managed to find time to bake my own bread in a breadmaker. Eating is such hard work :(

[Broxine]

Hi and welcome!

I'm not lactose intolerant but have been told not to eat red meat (including pork) or dairy as I suffer with arthitis. I also have to keep processed foods to a minimum.
In the last few weeks that I have been off dairy and red meat I have been diagnosed as having an intolerance to caffine and citrus fruits.

[Copper]

[QUOTE=Pam]
Jewish people don't eat dairy produce so Kosher foods are usually suitable for dairy free people too /QUOTE]

[Copper]

Jewish people don't eat dairy produce so Kosher foods are usually suitable for dairy free people,

Errr NO and NO.
Jewish people do eat dairy products. There are a number of Jewish laws concerning diet. One is that all food must be Kosher ie prepared in a certain way. Another law states that meat and milk must not be mixed in the same meal. This means that the foods you are looking for in a Jewish outlet should have the word parve or possibly parver - this means dairy free. This rule is sooo impottant that if a food has parve on it you can guarantee that is has no dairy ingredients at all.

So in a Jewish home you could have roast kosher lamb for dinner followed by a non dairy pudding. You would then be offered a black coffee or tea. Later after a few hours have elapsed since the meat meal you would be offered a milky coffee and maybe a cream cake.

[rebecca c]

Hi and welcome. I too was lactose intolerant as a very young baby and then put back on milk. As a child I had lots of ear and throat problem and developed asthma and rhinitus as a teenager. My problems have been mushrooming a bit but a non dairy diet has helped me and if they'd known about it when I was a baby there is a possibility I would have been saved all this. Who knows.

I hope you get use to the dairy free lifestyle for you and your baby as we all have. This site has been very helpful to me. I breastfed my sons for quite a length of time weaned them on to saya and goats milk - because I didn't want them drinking loads of cows milk.

[Lan]

Hi and welcome to the site P J Mullis and Ferme Griet.

I have been lactose intolerant and have allergies to citrus and caffeine since I was 19. Hated it as loved cheese, but was grateful to lose the annoying symptoms.

My advice would be to cook everything from scratch until you get on your feet. That's what my mother done and then I learned more and began buying packet foods again.

There is lots of information on the website about different names of dairy and helpful facts. If you can't find something you need, send myself or Steve a message or post it in the forums.

Kind Regards,


Lan.:D

[matt]

i can only agree with lan. post any questions you want and start with the basics.


don't worry about topic threads going off on little tours of subjects, we normally get the right answer before the thread goes on a trip.....:lol2:

[PJMULLIS]

B) Thanks everyone for the welcoming in. I do make my foods at home and try to stay away from restaurants. Only recently did venture to an Outback, where I ordered a steak and steamed vegetables. I requested that no butter be used on my veggies because my baby has an allergy to milk protein. They were nice and accommodated my request. The only thing is, is that although my vegetables did not have butter and my salad did not have cheese, my baby still got sick. I did use lemons for a salad dressing and I did not have any bread. I wonder what happened to make my baby get sick from this food. Secondly, I am constantly reading labels and trying to find the word parve on the packaging. Most of the time I see parve with a "K" by it. Does this mean that I can assume that the product is dairy free? :unsure:

[Copper]

Ok in simple terms -

Parve = dairy free

Kosher = prepared in accordance with strict Jewish laws.

Parev with or without the K is fine. Kosher or K on its own measn prepared according to the laws and applies to dairy and non dairy food.

I hope that this helps.

[PJMULLIS]

It is getting better trying to figure out the non-dairy foods vs the dairy foods. However, I am worried about calcium intake for my bones. I try to eat spinch and other foods that are non dairy. Yet a person can eat so much of these things. Does anyone know if there is a link between the Calcium supplements and milk protein?

[matt]

some will include dairy just ask the pharmasist to check for you. it is more than possible to get all you need from elsewhere. broccolli spinach etc. fish and so on.

then there's the milk substitutes, rice,oat, etc often have additional calcium added.

you can also ask gp for any advice.

[Copper]

The locum doctor at my surgery said that as long as I was eating a balanced diet I should be fine! I am not having dairy so is my diet balanced? This doctor was young and admitted she knew zilch about my problem.

I drink Tropicana orange juice with added calcium and take a calcium and minerals tablet daily. I take Ostron (by Lifeplan) and they contain no milk products at all.

[ellsie]

Calcium in most supplements is calcium carbonate I think which is like chalk or something and not linked to milk protein I take this and have an allergy to kilk protein.

[ellsie]

Sorry, that would be milk not kilk!^_^

[Nic]

I take an 'A to Z' multivitamin as well - I find that if I don't I get horrible leg cramps in the middle of the night. But the advice I had from a friend (who also happens to be a doctor, but not my doctor) was that this was more probably lack of magnesium (or something else -ium) than calcium. But the multivits stop it, so that's good.

The thing about relying on multivits is that calcium is really large (in volume) so even the multivits which advertise themselves as having 100% of the RDA for everything you need actually only have about 30% of the RDA for calcium. But I figure I get the rest from my diet - hopefully!

Nic

[PJMULLIS]

Thanks all of you. You guys are great and so helpful. I am so glad that I came to this site and made my inquiries about milk protein.

[Pen]

Yes, it is magnesium that is good for leg cramps. Also quinine. Leg cramps may occur as a result of low thyroid activity (hypothyroidism), low blood sugar levels (hypoglycemia) and other imbalances of the body so might be worth getting hormone/glucose levels checked.