Milk protein intolerance/allergy symptoms (me again)

[Jem26]

Why as soon as they have had regular formula or a yoghurt do they get watery eyes? is this an allergy or intolerance symptom? im confused because ive been told Jem gets very sick because she has an intolerance but she also sounds mucusy in her throat & gets watery eyes after dairy.

Sorry im hogging the forum lately:p

[ellsie]

Dairy can cause an increase in mucus production so poss it is related to an intolerance. If it was an allergy you may get other signs like hives, skin rash, that sort of thing also. Read your other posts and I am looking for recipes. Stick to plain foods at the mo as has been suggested. If I find any recipes I will post. xx:hug:This was supposed to be a hug but only one character has appeared!

[ellsie]

Phew! He's back!:D

[Jem26]

Lol!! Thanks for your reply.

She also gets a red patch on cheeks and nose wherever the milk/yoghurt has appeared. The watery eyes only last about 15 mins after the dairy??? she is also irratable and blowing out wind alot when she has it.

I am just trying to work out myself exactly whats wrong as the dietician said no tests could be done.

[ellsie]

They will test her when she is older . At the moment try making your own meals for her. If tomatoes are OK you can use as a base for sauce with fish ar chicken and rice or potato. Most of the deserts I am offered are fruit or fruit based so perhaps you could try an oatmeal with a little sugar or honey and fruit like stewed apple?
Does any reaction occur when you put milk just on her skin? You really are being tested with this little one. Bless.^_^

[tigerlily]

Eden has had/gets all but the watery eyes with dairy as well. The red patches are very common.
I have also heard that some children who are allergic to dairy get hearing problems. I suppose anything is possible, even watery eyes.

They do the RAST at 12 months but false-negative results are VERY common under the age of 2.


Vanessa.

[Jem26]

Thank you,

I just noticed when Jem had yoghurt and it got on her nose her nose was red?? and her cheeks always go very red on regular formula/dairy. She also has watery eyes for about 15 mins after having dairy. If she has a yoghurt then about 12-20 hours later she has a very loose poo, is a greeny/yellowy colour, nice;-)

[Copper]

Lovely detail, glad I didn't read this with my lunch :)

Poor Jemima - dairy just isn't for her at the moment. Have you cut dairy out of her diet now?

[Jem26]

Yes I just remembered that when she has any dairy her poo's are very loose the next day and I remembered she got a red nose & face, she also gets watery eyes, looks like she has been crying. She isn't wheezy at all though.

Keeping her away from dairy it seems that her symptoms just get worse the more she has it.

[rebecca c]

I get red face and nose too, I think from dairy. Definitely from chocolate.

[rhibaker]

Hi, just thought I would share this experience. My daughter is 18 months old and has been on Dairy Free diet since diagnosis of intolerance at 6 months. We have been told / given literature that is often contradicting. My daughter has tested negative on allergy tests for various foods however shown symtpoms of what is termed an 'allergic' reaction, for example, if she ingests dairy foods the reaction is : nasal congestion, watery eyes, severe eczema, vomiting, excessive wind, diahorrea and breathing difficluties (due to the nasal congestion). Some doctors will term some as intolerance i.e wind / diahorrea and some as allergic i.e nasal congestion / breathing difficulty. The info offered by medical practitioners can be confusing because a lot of the symptoms seemed to be intertwined with each other. Symtoms vary between children dependent on things such as amount ingested, though the intolerance / allergy may be the same. Hope this helps a little.
www.lactose.co.uk (http://www.lactose.co.uk) is a useful site for intolerances / lactose / allergy.:)

[cnc]

Hi, welcome to the site.
I was told by the consultant dietacian that there was two type of allergy to dairy: 1 that is the anaphylatic (sp) type, and then 2 is the type that produces all the mucus etc, however this one isn't written about in text books much so its all a bit hazy, but the consultant seemed definate that it existed, and was seperate to the intolerance which tends to be more gastrointestinal. Not sure that my information helps much. But am just passing on what I was told!!

To confuse matters for myself I fell into category two originally (massively overproducing mucus asthmatic!!) which is why I was put on dairy free, but now end up with the stomach cramps, lethargy and diarrohoea if I accidently have dairy....

[Nic]

From the experience of myself and others, I think dairy allergy does tend to fall into two types@
- tummy type problems, often directly lactose related. Seems like people grow in and out of these more, especially if diagnosed early in childhood.
- asthma / eczema type problems, which seem to be related to something else (milk proteins?) as lactolite etc still causes problems. Adults don't seem to grow out of these, though children sometimes do.

I'm the latter sort myself. The reason I'm dairy free is because of eczema, though it does have the fringe benefit of making my asthma much better and me less prone to chest colds etc.

Having said all that, when you cut out dairy for ages, re-introducing it seems to cause stomach problems (as cnc said) even for someone who just had asthma / eczema symptoms originally.

Don't know if this helps at all, but I thought I'd share it anyway.:unsure:

Nic

[Copper]

Trust me I am a biologist :)

Lactose intolerance - this is due to the absence of (or very limited amount of ) the enzyme lactase. Lactose is a large molecule and can't be absorbed by the large intestine. The enzyme in the small intestine breaks down this large molecule into two smaller ones. Think of a fine sieve and flour and peas. The sieve is the large intestine, the flour is the two smaller molecules and the peas are lactose. The lactose goes through the system fermenting and so giving me grief ie feel sick for hours, wind. I eventually end up on the toilet.

Allergy to milk proteins - the body for some reason decides this protein is something to destroy. It is a danger to the body. The immune system goes into overdrive to get rid of this "poison". This is why extra mucous is formed and you get swelling.


Allergy is more serious. Intolerance for me ranges from severe reaction and must never have the substance again - coconut. Lactose - I do produce a very small amount of the enzyme so I can tolerate the smallest amount of Lactolite in my coffee. A carton of Lactolite last 4 weeks and even then I throw some away. This show how little I can tolerate.

[Jem26]

Very interesting, thank you both. Wow I am learning alot:-)

[rhibaker]

This site is like a f'ont of all knowledge'!

[Lan]

Hi there.

Just nice to know we can be of help.

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