Wysoy - Risk of infertility

[Kwack1]

Does anyone have info on research in wysoy and the effect on boys infertility? My 4 year old has been on it since 6 mths old. Whats the alternative to get calcium needed?

[Nic]

There have been debates before on this board about the risks / benefits of using soya-based milk alternatives. My personal view is that there isn't any convincing evidence of harm coming from using soya products - especially given that the Chinese and Japanese have been using them as a major part of their diet for centuries.

However, with some people there can be a risk of triggering a soya allergy if its used as a total milk replacement. And there are other ways of getting calcium - supplements, green leafy veg etc.

That's just a personal view - and doesn't answer your specific question, I'm afraid. I'm sure others will also have thoughts. But if I were you, I wouldn't be too worried.

Nic

[tigerlily]

I don't know anything about the risk of infertility in boys from Wysoy BUT I've never been an advocate of Soya Formula to replace a milk-containing or milk-based Formula as it can cause a soya allergy/intolerance very quickly in "perceptible" children. We have been there and my daughter was temporarily intolerant to soya and got diarrhea from Wysoy. And let me tell you, a soya intolerance on top of other allergies is not easy!!! Even on its own, "no soya" is hard!!! I can, however, recommend Pepti.

Vanessa.

[JaynieB]

Interested to read this.. DS has had wysoy for about 2 weeks and the HV has told me not to use it as it doesn't have sufficient nutrients in it and Ive switched to SMA LF (lactose free)...

Can I ask what is Pepti? I've seen it a lot here but never heard of it?

Jayne

[Pam]

:soapbox::rant:I'm sorry but your HV needs a slap! What planet is she on?:headbang: Wysoy is nutritionally complete otherwise it wouldn't be sold as a baby formula. I'm speechless!!!! (well, almost!):rant:

http://www.smanutrition.co.uk/products/brand-flow-chart/completechart.htm

SMA WYSOY milk free formula is intended to meet the nutritional needs of infants and children who are intolerant to cows’ milk protein, lactose or sucrose. Medical guidance should always be sought. Soya infant formulae are not recommended for premature babies or those with kidney problems. • SMA LF must be used under medical supervision. SMA LF is a milk based formula for the dietary management of infants and young children who are intolerant to lactose or sucrose, or who are suffering from diarrhoea or colic caused by temporary lactose intolerance. It is suitable as the sole source of nutrition for infants up to six months of age, and in conjunction with solid food, for infants and young children up to eighteen months of age. SMA LF is not suitable for those who are intolerant to cows’ milk protein, or who suffer from galactosaemia or require a galactose free diet.

:soapbox:

SMA LF is lactose free but will not be completely dairy free. If DS is simply lactose intolerant it will be fine, but if he has a problem with cows milk protein it will not help.

I never had to use Pepti but I assume it is a hypo allergenic formula containing neither cows milk nor soya. It will probably only be available from chemists.

[Copper]

I think that I am correct in saying that Pepti is prescribed for those babies with allergy. Their bodies think that the protein molecules are a danger and the body reacts accordingly. Pepti cunningly has broken the protein molecules down into smaller molecules - amino acids. The body is happy with amino acids.

[tigerlily]

Yes, Copper is right. PEPTI is a hypoallergenic formula for allergic babies. Nutrionally complete and the "tastiest "of the lot!!! Tastes almost like "the real thing" in cereal...for those over 12 month, that is. It can be used as a milk substitute until the age of 2 (or longer on a dietitian's advice) Prescription only.

Vanessa.

[JaynieB]

Pam - I know I read that too... as I've said I'm beginning to think she may have misunderstood me - but even so if I'm talking about a 7 1/2 month old I would have thought it was fairly obvious I wouldn't have meant regular soya milk but meant soya formula.:rolleyes:

Anyway soory Kwack1 I've kind of hijacked your post... think I'm going to see Dr this week and ask about either getting SMA LF on prescription short term or the Pepti one..

Jayne

[Kwack1]

thanks for chat & Info...I had never heard of SMA or Pepsi brands...also I understand there is some research into soya formula possibly causeing peanut allergy (that my son has now been diagnosed with).